TIME and Haditha Lies
Author: Michael Kraft
The Time Magazine Debacle
It is interesting to note just how erroneous the media’s reporting on that incident was as exemplified by Washington Post reporter Ellen Knickmeyer who six months later took the word of a so-called “Iraqi witness” from Haditha and reported that the men in the cab “happened upon the scene inadvertently” while riding in the cab.
Nat Helms is author of a new book, “My Men Are My Heroes” which provides an account of the incredible bravery of Sgt. Brad Kasal in the second battle of Fallujah.
He stated that Knickmeyer wrote about a witness who said that the taxi driver turned onto the street and saw the wrecked Humvee and the Marines, and then the cab driver tried to back away at full speed. The Marines opened fire from about 30 yards away, killing all the men inside the taxi. Dela Cruz reportedly pumped his 30-round M-16 magazine into the car when they tried to run.
Even worse, later media reports said the cab carrying four known insurgents was occupied by four “college students,” along with the cab driver, who were on their way to school.
These false reports however, pale in the face of the role played by Time magazine Tim McGirk and Time itself. According to McGirk’s first story, a “budding journalism student” had given him a video he had taken after the killing of the civilians in the houses near the site of the IED explosion.
Almost immediately, Time had to correct the story, revealing that the “budding journalism student” was actually 43-year-old Taher Thabet al-Hadithi who just happened to be on hand to videotape the aftermath of the killing in the houses.
Time also identified al-Hadithi as head of something called the Hammurabi Organization for Human Rights and Democracy Monitoring. Time reported that the Hammurabi Human Rights group was affiliated with Human Rights Watch. Human Rights Watch vehemently denied they had any connection or any ties or association with the Hammurabi Human Rights Group, and Time wrote a retraction.
It was then revealed that the Hammurabi Human Rights group was a group of two: Hadithi and Ali Omar Abrahem al-Mashhadani, a Reuters News Service reporter who was previously arrested by U.S. Marines in his home town of Ramadi and underwent weeks of interrogation at the infamous Abu Ghraib Prison.
His American warders told Reuters that he was released in a general amnesty in late 2005 along with about 500 other Iraqi prisoners. Reuters also reported that he spent five months in U.S. custody before being released without charges.
Three months later al-Mashhadani was the darling of Time magazine, Nat Helms wrote sarcastically.
NewsMax can now reveal that the battalion S2 knew that the insurgents were following their usual practice of videotaping an ambush. And it was a series of cell phone communications between Hadithi and Mashhadani, both known insurgents, that alerted the Marines to the impending ambush.
False Charges Under False Pretenses
The Marine Corps, however, had discovered al-Hadithi more than a year before Nov. 19, among other anti-government, anti-American Sunni insurgent sympathizers inhabiting Haditha. He was still under their microscope in late February when he gave his video to McGirk after shopping it around for weeks. Helms described it as “ugly and inflammatory, full of dead children and women and blood-covered walls.”
Al-Hadithi claimed the deaths were the handiwork of out-of-control Marines who wantonly charged through the innocent victims’ homes slaughtering women and children in revenge for Terrazas’ gruesome death.
In late March, McGirk released al-Hadithi’s “evidence” to the world. Marines who specialized in signal interception told Helms they were shocked when they heard al-Hadithi and Mashhadani were mixed up in it.
In his testimony Capt. Dinsmore revealed that both men were operating freely throughout the province before purportedly announcing the creation of their human rights organization in early 2006. Marine intelligence officers were aware of their intelligence activities because their frequent cellular telephone conversations were monitored, they said.
McGirk’s sources were known insurgent propagandists and it was McGirk’s Time reports that created the Haditha massacre hoax.
Marine sources told NewsMax that when McGirk first contacted the 3rd Battalion and asked to interview the men of Kilo Company, he was invited to come to Haditha and the men were told by Chessani to answer all his questions fully and truthfully.
On the day before he was due to arrive in Haditha from the safety of Baghdad’s Green Zone, NBC reporter Bob Woodward and his cameramen were badly wounded. McGirk promptly canceled his trip, saying it was too dangerous.
This, incidentally is the same McGirk who partied with the murderous Taliban after 9/11 and proclaimed them to be a fine upstanding bunch of just plain folks.
The courageous McGirk has now refused to testify at Chessani’s Article 32 hearing where defense attorneys insist he would have been torn to pieces in cross examination.
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McGirk should be tried for Treason!
Thank you Michael - you are giving all of us a purpose to be Born Again - it is so invigorating knowing we can and will make a differance to help these young innocent Marines return home as the Proud and the Few.
6/25/07 Mary Jo Hackett
It is time the US military hold Time magazine, Tim McJerk and those who broadcast those lies. Time magazine needs to pay in the billions and so does Tim McJerk, and the managing editor, Tim McJerk and anyone else associated with bringing these charges need to be taken out and beat within an inch of their lives. As a parent of a soldier, I pity the idiot who tries to defame my child for I will not stop until every legal avenue is spent - justice will prevail and these bastards need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law, then beyond. I could go on and on about how outraged I am but it would do no good. Until Mr. and Ms. America pull their heads out of theit butts and realize we must stop people like this, our country is in for a rude awakening in a few years. No soldier is going to want to fight to keep our nation free if they are continuously treated like this.
A real commander in chief would spare our marines the persecution they have suffered at the hands of the terrorists,chicken —- reporters,idiot congressman murtha,pentagon lawyers,and hq/cya generals.Sadly the president is more interested in forcing illegal aliens down our throats,and sending border patrol agents to prison than defending our troops.
Unfortunately what we thought was a real commander in chief has fallen by the wayside. Bush is a sellout. How many of you knew only 13 states have the recall law for politicians? This is why Mad Mel Martinez, Trent Lotsatalk and all the others don’t fear the voter.
Liberalism is a dangerous mental disease!!! If Lt Col. Chessani is aquitted, I would do exactly as you plan. Go after the SOBs that have created this travisty of justice.
In addition, I suggest that you expose “political correctness” for what it truly is - 1848 Marxism. Go to the Communist Manifesto on line. Search “abolition of the family” and start reading; you are in Part II. As you continue to read, you will find the following: “we replace home education by social,” “women in common,” “abolish countries and nationality,” and “communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality.” Christianity is specifically mentioned as opposed to other religions.
Sincerely,
RK Maddock Jr., MD, FACP
I hate what has happened to our country. We were warned 3,000 years ago though in the book of Psalms, chapter 9 verse 17 “The wicked shall be turned into hell,and ALL THE NATIONS THAT FORGET GOD.”. This nation is becomming a living hell to anyone that loves what’s right,normal,just or even sane. Until this nation returns to The God of our Fathers, I suspect that the temperature is only going to get hotter.
I also was a railroaded Marine. My case was in the way of a golf game.
And since 1974 there is no men willing to reconsider the Bad Conduct Discharge.
My crime was awol to help my mother when my dad died.
These Marines must be found NOT GUILTY and the Marine prosicuter and Tim Mc Girk sent to prison for destroying these mens lives.
I am under the opinion that Time magazine
and their reporter( i will not give him the satisfaction of naming him) should be sued, pay all leagal costs for the marines and then be brought up on chareges. Any law or Gov. officials
that ignore the FACTS of this story, leave any stone unturned should should face the full fury of a congressional investigation.
If our congress covers it up they also should
be investigated and uncovered. Its high time these people be held accountable.There needs to be a new sherriff in this rotten to the core town!
i contributed to the defense of the seven?
marines charged last year in the deaths of
iraquis. i wish to contribute monetarily and/or otherwise to the defense of these marines. please advise. thanks, to you, but mostly to them.
HAVEN’T ANY OF YOU NOTICED THAT THE WORLD IS TURNING A LITTLE LOPSIDED,GREED OVERSHADOWS LOGIC/VALUES OVER AGENDA /MASSIVE TRADE IMBALANCE WITH A COMMUNIST COUTRY /AND I CAN NOT BUY A CUBAN CIGAR /THE PANAMA CANAL GIVE AWAY TO THE PRC”WHERE THEY HAVE INSTALLED MASSIVE BUNKERS”/NOW THEY HAVE THREE DEEP WATER PORT BUILT AND OPERATED BY THE PRC”ALL IN OUR WATERS”/WE NOT ONLY BUY THEIR PRODUCT /THEY SHIP IT TO US ON THEIR SLAVE SHIPS/OFF LOADED BY THERE CRAINS WE BOUGHT /DISTRIBUITED BY THEIR TRUCKING CO/STORED IN THERE WAREHOUSE /AND TO TOP THAT OFF! THEY SELL US THEIR FEMALE BABIES “TO BREED IN OUR COUNTRY IDIOTS” /STEAL ALL TECHNOLOGY AT WILL/AND WHEN THEY COME TO THIS COUNTRY “THEIR SUBSIDIZED WITH OUR BEST JOBS” AND WHEN THEY NEED TO ENLARGE THEEIR BEDROOM RENTAL UNITS THEY ONLY HIRE THEIR OWN, AT SUB STANDARD WAGES. OWN…AND ON/AND ON!THATS HOW SCREWED UP WE ARE /DOESN’T THE GAY PARADE TELL IT ALL…
This is the end of Time magazine. When you start messing around with good Marines, you will bring down upon your head the wrath of God! If you don’t believe it, study Marine Corps history and learn the patterns. I do not have the slightest doubt that Lt Col. Chessani will be completely exonerated. I will fast and pray for him; I know that prayer will be answered in the affirmative.
I’m a mother of A soldier who spent a whole year in Iraq. Just tell me how can i help this marines. I’m not rich but i will donate whatever i can to help clear their names. I’m a barber at a military base and most of the men there are marines, and to tell you the truth i see my son in every one of them. I love them all and i’m proud for what they do and what they stand for.
FREEDOM, LOYALTY, COURAGE….
“My Country right or wrong” naturally leads to “my Marines right or wrong” - loyalty to Nation, loyalty to warfighting fellow comrads, loyalty to all Marines is paramount - release these Marines, NOW - destroy the enemy npt the Marines - and never, never forget that in combat zones, ALL non-combatants were the first to leave and remaining men, women, and children are all actively involved either directly or indirectly in combat and combat support activities of enemy forces whose goal is to kill Marines and to kill ALL Americans — Recomended USMC Vietnam era in combat reading is the book “A Rumor of War” by former USMC Lt Philip Caputo –
Another reason why embedded reporters should be eliminated from the field. All edited videos precluding beforehand footage, should be discarded as false evidence…
The end of western civilization is at hand. Not because Islamo facist will defeat the West on the battlefield. It will because of apathy of its people. We can thank Time Magazine, the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC Foxnews the BBC etc. for helping numb the minds of the people. Its funny, if the Islamo facist win? American hating assholes like McGirk may smile long enough to see his own asshole when his head gets chopped off by the same people he is obviously rooting for.
Things changed since I was in service. We now believe an enemy informant over the word of our military personal that are following the orders handed down thru the chain of command. It sounds like the higher up personal have no guts to stand behind their own orders! (Ramsfield has no guts)or he would have stopped these proceedings months ago! I sure glad they were to young to be high up in the military during world war 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These Marines have risked life and limb.It is time for us to stand up for them.I will donate money for there defense,call my Congressmen and tell anyone that will listen about this travesty of injustice.
May God Be With Us All.
They stand tall and do the dirty work that I am to scared to do. All for my freedom. Thank you just doesn’t seem to be a just payment. What is amazing is, they don’t even ask for that.
TIME and Haditha Lies…
McGirk’s sources were known
insurgent propagandists and it was McGirk’s Time reports that created the
Haditha massacre hoax.
More>>>…
Thank you for Michael Savage for being my voice. You are a true american. Every night while having dinner both my husband and I listen to your voice of reason. Then I clean the kitchen and continue to listen to you.
You are my new hero.
Thanks.
Keep up the fight. I’ve encountered a few gutless senior officers in my career, and they should not be allowed a free ride. You have a powerfull forum and I salute your use of it.
It has been obvious to me for many years , that , we the people, are considered the enemy by government at all levels. I welcome those just realizing this to my world!
What shame to bring to OUR NATION. How can such people exist here in OUR COUNTRY, who would besiege upon OUR HEROES and defenders such a travesty. I am truely sickened by the media in OUR COUNTRY. I can no longer digest the vile menu they offer. The lawyers and politicians are self serving. BUT, they will be held accountable. Yes, ACCOUNTABLE! WE The People are not going to continue to be spoonfed bullshit. I support Lt. Col. Chessani and the US MARINES.
My son just joined the Marine Corps even though I begged him to wait. He doesn’t see that he is in more danger than just getting blown up by the enemy–that he could be offered up as a sacrifice by his own country!Keep up the fight Michael!! I’m going to donate my hard earned $ to help these Marines. By the way, I’m a nurse in a jail with 1500 inmates. This makes me even more aware that some of these people are innocent.
Perhaps we can have a listner attend a town meeting debate and pose the question to our future candidates: what would you do for these Marines right now….that one answer alone will tell us all we need to know about the character of our next President….
I know one thing for certain, I’d like just 3 minutes alone with this McGirk cretin. Here these Marines are languishing in the klink and this piece of offal, McGirk is still walkin around free to write any old lies he can come up with. You piece of garbage you. I am fed up to my eyeballs with this slanderous and yes, TREASONOUS , left leaning media. Semper Fi.
Once again the liberal media runs unchecked stories proving who they are . Once a beacon of freedom, now an outlet for biased reporting by reporters with a personal agenda. Like the Provda of the old Soviet government. Their falling readership is proof the people see through their lies.
Fred L Butler, son of liberty
I am shocked, disgusted, & absolutely pissed off to hear what is happening to these Marines. Don’t these “elected officials” understand what war is or is it that they just don’t give a damn about the men & women who are putting their lives on the line every day to protect our country? Marines are trained to kill the enemy PERIOD. What would the liberal crybabies have them do? Ask for an ID card before before they defend themselves? What’s next? Replacing their rifles with cans of mace? Maybe these spineless pinheads would rather have to notify the parents, wives, or children of these Marines that their loved-one died for the cause of political correctness. Its bad enough that the liberals & the turn-coat press are persecuting them but I never expected that from the so-called “conservative Republicans” that I voted for. Even worse than that are the the high-ranking officers who are prosecuting them. I’m a former Marine myself. The first & most important thing I learned in boot camp was that Marines are all brothers & sisters. We take care of our own. Apparently that is a concept that no longer matters to these people but it still holds true with the rest of us! Thank you for standing up for our Marines & if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know!
God help us! Time Magazine should be sued out of existence, and the sleeze McGirk should be tried for TREASON and giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. We would have lost WWII with kind of “reporting” and we will surely lose this one. George Bush should be a man and a real commander-in-chief and stop this anti-American, anti-military attack. God bless our troops!
And today their cover says
“Why Amnesty Is Good”
What a leftist piece of garbage that magazine is.
the cab carrying four known insurgents
How do you know they were insurgents?
Almost immediately, Time had to correct the story,
TIME didn’t correct the story about the student because there was nothing wrong with it. TIME broke the story in March and in JUNE published this:
“The same day, Haditha journalism student Taher Thabet videotapes the scene at the homes where the killings had occurred and at the local morgue”
NewsMax can now reveal…
that it is written by liars for half-wits
McGirk’s sources were known insurgent propagandists
Who says?
Al-Hadithi claimed the deaths were the handiwork of out-of-control Marines who wantonly charged through the innocent victims’ homes slaughtering women and children in revenge for Terrazas’ gruesome death.
That’s what happened.
This, incidentally is the same McGirk who partied with the murderous Taliban after 9/11 and proclaimed them to be a fine upstanding bunch of just plain folks.
Do you have a source for this smear?
Once again the liberal media runs unchecked stories proving who they are .
The story was checked.
BTW, why did the Marines LIE?
“Col. Stewart Navarre, chief of staff of Marine Corps Installations West, announced the charges and specifications during a news conference on Camp Pendleton, Calif., today. All of those charged were members of 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment.
The next day, 2nd Marine Division issued a press release stating that 15 Iraqi civilians were killed in an IED explosion, and Marines and Iraqi Army soldiers killed eight insurgents in a follow-on firefight. “We now know with certainty the press release was incorrect, and that none of the civilians were killed by the IED explosion,” Navarre said.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=2499
We can’t trust anything the media tells us. My source for news and events that I trust is Michael Savage.
Michael Savage says these men need our help; I’m behind his effort 100%.
We stopped “Time” 25 years ago after receiving it for one year. It wasn’t our kind of magazine.
I beg our president’s releasing them of all the accusations and untruths. They risked their lives in service of our country, and we Americans need to stand behind them.
Yvonne -
Why are they “untruths”?
Steve J, The reason we know that the 4 in the cab were insurgents is because we were tracking them with a UAV, listening to them on their cell phone as they were being vectored in to where the Marines were located, who were in the know all along, and subsequently opened fire first. Steve J ? what does “J” stand for? My news source are the Marines and Soldiers in the field, not news papers. Most news jocks stay in the Green zone and buy their stories from locals trying to make a buck. When all you people out there read or listen to “News” remember this, only the unusual is considered news worthy, which means that you will hardly ever know what the usual is because it is not news worthy.
Mike Davis
Steve J, is a a kool-aid drinking lib. Reading his posts I am sure he jumps up for joy when American soldiers dies. Once again another misguided liberal whose head will roll when we lose this war. And we will lose this war because of girly men and women not liking the idea of war. FYI I dont like war or death but I do appreciate life.
Steve, how about applying the “Fairness Doctrine” to the print media and television?
I read and see all these posts about law suits…..what pc garbage. anyone who betrays our country or our soldiers should pay with the tender he is trading in…his life. the marines have no journelistic or corporate shield protecting their lives or reputations. in fact, it sounds like no one is protecting these particular marines. we must prosecute war as war if we are going to be in one, and we must prosecute treason as treason.
It is truly a mess the way our CIC El presidente’ Jorge boosh has ruined this country. These Marines are an example of the future of this country. I hope to God they are, AS THEY SHOULD BE!!! released and ALL charges dismissed. BUT…just like the illegal alien amnesty bill is already a done deal…(they are just going thru the motions) these war fighters will, in my opinion be sacrificed to appease the Islam fanciest Muslims. I am certain the USA is going the way of Rome. And Nero booosh fiddles and does nothing. Or should I say nada???
I applaud your efforts, Mr. Savage. I especially like how you called out Presidente Bush to pardon these falsely accused Marines and you would forego your rightful attack on the amnesty bill.
Don’t stop until these cowardly lawyers are disbarred!!
Dr. Savage:
As Dave Barton explains, when US Christians bought the ’separation of church and state’, it was the beginning of the end for America, for as Hitler said, “Give me your youth….”
The Brown shirts are back in dresses, and they control our schools with liberal drivel, and want to imprint us nationally with their politically-correct cant. You will note. that the winner of the national spelling contest was ‘home schooled’!
Now we have lawyers and editors and politicians, all schooled by liberal idiots, in positions of power. Dave Barton thinks it’s not too late. Thanks to others like Mike Savage, Dave may be right.
Thank you, Dr. Savage.
I support DR.SAVAGE,I want to see these lawyers disbarred,in hancuffs,and on the way to prison..this is a devastation by our own government.If bush is trying to be remimbered,he will be-as the worst president in U.S. history
Thanks Dr. Savage for again helping to air the truth. After 22 years of service myself I was profoundly disturbed to read the initial stories about a so-called “massacre” by Marines. It’s good to know the story was fabricated, but infuriating that our own media is responsible. This seems like the Lt. Pantano incident all over again- anything to get a conviction for public relations…
Recommended reading to all is “Lone Survivor” by US Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell- a real hero by every definition of the word. He’ll tell you how it is dealing with ROE, terrorists with cell phones and sympethetic media and lawyers who care nothing for the truth. It seems each combat unit now needs an embedded lawyer…What a shame that we do this to our guys who are putting their lives on the line.
Dr.Savage, THANK YOU.
Finally someone air the truth.
To all: Why only the words? Where the actions? God never help those who do nothing…
Just Pray? - does not change anything!
I’m not rich, but I would help to Marines whatever I can with $. Looks like $ only the option left to get the truth??
McGirk, looks like a TOOL for the enemy. After paying for monetary funds for causing unnecessary chargest against our Marines, I say throw him out, let him and those of his elk live with the Taliban/bombbelt fashionista! They DESERVE each other, liars to the bone and McGirk, your a COWARD jealous of REAL brave men.
I have contributed to the defense of The Marines, you should too !! Thanks Michael Savage for keeping us abreast of this travesty of justice. McGirk needs to be arrested and tried for his lies.
Dr. Savage,
You have been such a wonderful supporter for all of our values as Americans. You brought to light the injustice of our brave soilders for the political gain of a washed-up has-You have been such a wonderful supporter for all of our values as Americans. You brought to light the injustice of our brave soldiers for the political gain of a washed-up has-been of a Marine, (Senator Murtha) and the propaganda machine…sadly, our US media! Thank you for giving us a refreshing look of the news of the world that we would never hear on the television, or read in the mainstream newspapers!!! I hope to God, our soldiers can sue the pants off Murtha and Tim McGirk, and then go after Time magazine for the smear campaign, and treatment in the brig they have been wrongly subjected to!!! May God pave the way for their immediate release in prison and of this horrific case!!
Steve J, is a a kool-aid drinking lib. Reading his posts I am sure he jumps up for joy when American soldiers dies.
LOL! Another bed wetter can’t deal with reality. Based on results, YOU approve of Bush’s “slow bleed” strategy in Iraq.
Once again another misguided liberal whose head will roll when we lose this war.
PAY ATTENTION: We’ve lost the war.
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE
February 24, 2006 2:51 PM
It Didn’t Work
By William F. Buckley Jr.
“I can tell you the main reason behind all our woes—it is America.” The New York Times reporter is quoting the complaint of a clothing merchant in a Sunni stronghold in Iraq. “Everything that is going on between Sunni and Shiites, the troublemaker in the middle is America.”
One can’t doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed.
Just in case anyone (Steve J above) is wondering about the TIME reporter/slime hanging out with the Taliban - his OWN report is here. “We’re not so different after all…” he says. HIS OWN WORDS.
If a reporter for time can’t tell the difference between Americans and the Taliban, why on earth is he a reporter for anything…
Here’s the report by the reporter:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/times-haditha-reporter-had-thanksgiving-2001-with-taliban
I could go on and on about how outraged I am
I am outraged that someone like you is allowed to vote.
Lost the war? If that is determined to be the end result in history it will be because we try our own soldiers and let television coverage limit the effectivness of our own advantage.
If we fight against an enemy that essentialy “cheats” we will lose.
If we go in and shoot first and achieve a set objective with the realization that it is war and victory is the only goal….then we will win.
If we continue to let Americans bash americans and apologize for every shot fired then we will lose. Wer all know the enemies objective is to drag this out, try to build bad publicity and make Americans grow impatient.
WE KNEW this was the objective from day 1, and thanks to Libs they are getting their wish, our own senate is rubbing shoulders with Syrias government while bombs kill Marines.
Gutless never wins I suppose, so you may be right and we will lose…well lose while the senate still debates who is the most “patriotic”.
Steve J, The reason we know that the 4 in the cab were insurgents is because we were tracking them with a UAV, listening to them on their cell phone as they were being vectored in to where the Marines were located, who were in the know all along, and subsequently opened fire first.
And where is the proof of this? Like the traitor who wrote this column and the lunatic who directed you people here, you offer no proof.
Lost the war?
Yeah, lost the war. Now I suppose you’ll be claiming that Willima F. Buckley is a liberal!
Lost the war? If that is determined to be the end result in history it will be because we try our own soldiers and let television coverage limit the effectivness of our own advantage.
We lost the war when Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz publicly derided Gen. Shinseki for telling Congress that we would need several hundred thousand troops to do the job. The original plan called for at least 380,000.
Gutless never wins I suppose
Stupid never wins.
If a reporter for time can’t tell the difference between Americans and the Taliban
He most certainly could tell the difference, as the article clearly indicates. You people always seem to make an effort to blame the messenger.
Most news jocks stay in the Green zone
Bullshit! More journalists have already died in Iraq than during the entire Vietnam War.
Either your sources are lying to you or you are lying.
US Christians bought the ’separation of church and state’
The separation is part of our Constitution. Here’s what Article VI says:
“…no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
GOT IT?
If we go in and shoot first and achieve a set objective with the realization that it is war and victory is the only goal….then we will win.
Try to grow up and look at the world as it is, not as you want it to be.
Since 2004, we have been told that we cannot win soley by military means.
2004:
Stunningly, last week, Chairman of Joint Chiefs Richard Myers, with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at his side, said: “There is no way to militarily lose in Iraq. There is also no way to militarily win in Iraq.” WSJ, 5/20/04
2005:
“This insurgency is not going to be settled - the terrorists and the terrorism in Iraq is not going to be settled - through military options or military operations,” Brig. Gen. Donald Alston, the chief military spokesman in Iraq, told Knight Ridder earlier this month. “It’s going to be settled in the political process.” 6/20/05
More milltary flag officers on Iraq:
SEN. GRAHAM: Is Iraq winnable militarily?
ADM. FALLON: Not militarily.
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Federal News Service
January 30, 2007 Tuesday
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Steve J.
You go out of your way to defend the enemy in this case. You seem to have all the answers and they are all negative towards the Marines and the U.S.
You are a fool. It is people like you that the enemy depend and rely on. They know America is full of soft hearted liberals and a liberal media that will make it impossible for us to win the war. You provide their propoganda for free. You drag military operations through the mud via left wing political ambitions.
The enemy is patient and you are not. You do not have the courage to do what is necessary to win a war so…yes we may lose, because of you. And the enemy will behead you.
We can bring our Marines home now and send them again later because you will need them to fight for you when the enemy is knocking on your door.
Hooo Ra!
Wer all know the enemies objective is to drag this out, try to build bad publicity and make Americans grow impatient.
WE KNEW this was the objective from day 1
Not all of us!
Rumsfeld blames Iraq problems on ‘pockets of dead-enders’
Posted 6/18/2003 3:15 PM Updated 6/18/2003 5:48 PM
USA Today
WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Wednesday played down recent deadly attacks on Americans in Iraq, equating those losses with everyday violence in large U.S. cities.
Asked at Pentagon press conference about the Iraqi resistance, Rumsfeld described it as “small elements” of 10 to 20 people, not large military formations or networks of attackers. He said there “is a little debate” in the administration over whether there is any central control to the resistance, which officials say is coming from Saddam’s former Baath Party, Fedayeen paramilitary, and other loyalists.
“In those regions where pockets of dead-enders are trying to reconstitute, Gen. (Tommy) Franks and his team are rooting them out,” Rumsfeld said, referring to the U.S. commander in Iraq. “In short, the coalition is making good progress.”
On Capitol Hill, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said, “We are still in a phase where we need some significant combat power to take on these remnants of the old regime.” “I think these people are the last remnants of a dying cause,” he told the House Armed Services Committee. He said U.S. forces “have the sympathy of the population, not the surviving elements of the Baathist regime.”
In Iraq, Maj. Gen. Ray Odierno said raids begun Sunday had resulted in the capture of a number of senior Iraqi figures and the seizure of millions of dollars they were using to finance continued fighting. “We are seeing military activity throughout our zone, but I really qualify it as militarily insignificant,” Odierno told Pentagon reporters in a video conference from Tikrit. He added that the attacks are “having no impact on the way we conduct business on a day-to-day basis.”
You go out of your way to defend the enemy in this case.
Bullshit. The Marines LIED and are now being held accountable. If people like you had your way, we would never win over ANY “hearts and minds.”
It is people like you that the enemy depend and rely on.
No, they rely on fools like this one:
We have no idea what kind of ethnic strife might appear in the future, although as I have noted, it has not been the history of Iraq’s past.
PAUL WOLFOWITZ, FEBRUARY 27, 2003*
*At that time, Wolfowitz was the Deputy Secretary of Defense
And the enemy will behead you.
Another bed wetter!
They know America is full of soft hearted liberals and a liberal media that will make it impossible for us to win the war.
You rat bastards are not going to get away with blaming this clusterfuck on us or the media.
Do not join the military. President Bush and the congress will not stand behind you. Join at your own risk. Especially do not join the marines.
Actually I watched the interview of the little girl who survived the BIG BAD marines. she showed in her mud-hut where she hid from the AWFUl (sarcasm) marines.
When asked to recount the details she said she was under the bed before the loud boom.
The reporter asked her what she was doing under the bed?
SINCE SHE APPARENTLY KNEW THE BOMB WAS GOING TO GO OFF.
If you dont think this is a staged attack, where common practice is to film these ambushes then you are just a california lib faulting the US at all costs.
I imagine you think Jimmy Carteris right and Hamas is a great bunch of guys.
Or Pelosi is right and we should befriend Syria? The whole war has been propaganda, and this is just a common example.
Even low-IQ Anderson Cooper commented how they are happy to drive reporters around Lebenon for example and point things out they WANT the americans to show on TV.
Not a conspiracy theory, but weve seen it before from the guys shooting rockets at Isreal from houses in residential neighborhoods and schools then the next day filming the ruined hospitals and blaming Isreal for bombing them.
I support our marines, I dont question their words and I know that everyone of them has earned my trust more than anyone outside of what they are into.
Unlike our Dem congress I support our troops to their word, I dont just pretend to support them when the camera is on me.
“with blaming this clusterfuck on us or the media.”
Your right it is a bad situation, but no Dem should talk about blame….all this congress has done is run around blaming bush and all his staff since taking office.
They havnt presented a single solution to a single problme, just finger pointing.
Been an amazing first 100 days.
Why don’t you just give us ‘who and where’ to cotribute to Col. Chessani’s defense fund.
Fair Winds…bill
go to wikipedia and make sure they list the truth on haditha!!!!
Dr Savage, thank you for speaking out on all the issues that mean something to all the conservatives . This is a travisty and our commander in chief should be impeached . These Marines have given so much and do not deserve this kind of treatment . I am ashamed I voted for him . Again thanks so much for all you do for our Great Soldiers .
“all this congress has done is run around blaming bush and all his staff since taking office.”
Bush and his staff deserve a LOT of blame. Consider this lie from Tony Snowjob:
Here’s what Tony Snow said back in March:
MR. SNOW: No, I think — again, what the President has — the Department of Justice has made recommendations, they’ve been approved. And it’s pretty clear that these things are based on performance and not on sort of attempts to do political retaliation, if you will. (3/15/07)
Once again, that statement is “no longer operative”:
Q Okay, but at the beginning of this story, the President, you, Dan Bartlett, others said on camera that politics was not involved, this was performance-based.
MR. SNOW: That is something — we have never said that. (6/13/07)
I support our marines, I dont question their words
LMFAO!!! Another war whore! Have you EVER hung out wiht Marines?
Actually I watched the interview of the little girl who survived the BIG BAD marines.
Give a link.
If you dont think this is a staged attack, where common practice is to film these ambushes
Staged or not, those Marines killed innocent civilians AND THEN LIED ABOUT IT.
WHY DO YOU SUPPORT LIARS?
I imagine you think Jimmy Carteris right and Hamas is a great bunch of guys.
1) Carter doesn’t think they’re a great bunch of guys
2) Pres. Fredo pushed for elections and Hamas won
3) (2) shows that Fredo’s push for democracy in the Middle East is at best STUPID.
Yes actually, of my 4 closest childhood friend 3 became marines and one Airforce, Not one of them is a liar.
You must be 100% sure that sitting in your house at home you have some secret source of proof of all the facts to call the US marines liars.
The most important aspect of my comments is that our enemy is trained and bred liars, so when given the choice I trust the same Marine corp that my closest friends work and fight with.
And “staged or not” is not a correct answer since it is important. If it was staged then people who post on the internet from information they saw on tv or read blaming the marines as murderers and calling marines liars did exactly what the enemy hoped you would do.
They hoped you’d see the video they staged and they hoped you would call marines liars.
You again have helped them accomplish the goal they set out to accomplish.
Is that what I was seeing on the internet videos? Hamas democracy taking place in the streets?
So those guys with the black masks and machine guns going door to door in office buildings are senators?
You must be 100% sure that sitting in your house at home you have some secret source of proof of all the facts to call the US marines liars.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=2499
Col. Stewart Navarre, chief of staff of Marine Corps Installations West, announced the charges and specifications during a news conference on Camp Pendleton, Calif., today. All of those charged were members of 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment.
The next day, 2nd Marine Division issued a press release stating that 15 Iraqi civilians were killed in an IED explosion, and Marines and Iraqi Army soldiers killed eight insurgents in a follow-on firefight. “We now know with certainty the press release was incorrect, and that none of the civilians were killed by the IED explosion,” Navarre said.
Is that what I was seeing on the internet videos? Hamas democracy taking place in the streets?
What you are seeing is another reason the neo-cons should be permanently removed from the levers of power in the U.S.
The most important aspect of my comments is that our enemy is trained and bred liars
Ok, I don’t have a problem with that statement.
I agree, wont find any bush loving here. He left our side of thinking years ago.
If you would just specify you believe THESE marines are liars, I would contend we are both decent Americans with differing opinions.
All the ones Ive known (5 closely personal friends) are all very decent if not the best people.
They were great people before joining, came out a bit rougher but still honest great people.
On the public story referenced above in the Newsmax article I reprinted, you have an opinion and done your research to form it, so i cant argue your right to voice what you contend and have learned, and your time spent putting it in a way that is hard to argue.
So ill end on Happy Fourth of July, I hope the war ends soon by whatever means.
Mike
Steve J.
Our HERO’s are not out there fighting blindly - they are not out there killing innocent civilians in a blind rage. You have been misled by the media who mis-reported the facts on this case and is now back tracking trying to get on the latest band wagon of shock and horror at their own gross in ability to correctly report news.
The fact is - Intelligence officers who were monitoring cell phone calls, movement of known insurgents and unmanned aircraft video sureveilance of the area have TESTIFIED under oath using the gathered intelligence at their dispossal in the Article 32 hearings that have taken place. FOR THE DEFENSE of these HERO’s because they are INNOCENT of these bogus charges! This information was confidential and unable to be reported at the time of the incident because the surveillance and monitoring was still on-going……. duh.
When the insurgents are tried for their crimes against the Iraqi people and against Coalition Forces - then we can look at our rights and wrongs on the battle field with a fine tooth comb. However, we are at WAR and no HERO should have to wonder if their acts during war time against the enemy should land them in a court room. These are well trained, well skilled, well abled men and women who do their job with professionalism and dignity.
My husband is one of those HERO’s. Not one of those charged - but a Marine putting his life on the line so that you can freely state your idiotic opinions.
He has been shot at in Iraq. He had to wait to be shot at again so that he could positively identify where the hostile fire was coming from. What if that second shot was all that hostile insurgents needed to make sure there wasn’t a return of fire in their direction?
You, my fellow American, should be kissing the asses of these brave men and women who put their lives on the line freely so that you can sit safely at your computer terminal and slander them, demean them….. Why don’t you get off your office chair, roll yourself into your local recruiters office and sign on the dotted line. Then, and only then, could you possibly understand the war from their point of view. The war that leaves these HERO’s wondering if the woman in the burkha is really just trying to get to the market for food or if the burkha is covering an explosive vest that she was forced to wear to save one of her children from wearing it…… that is the kind of insurgent, the enemy we face. The one who uses the media, innocent women and children at their disposal to play on the simple, weak minds of people like you. How did that little girl KNOW that IED was going to go off? Oh ya - because the insurgent with the AK47 in her living room, told her so! She should be thanking God or Alla or whomever she prays to that these Marines came in and killed that spineless scumbag before he raped and killed her in front of her family after using their home as a safe house to fire at the Marines from.
Marines are not liars, Steve. They are hero’s - every single one of them and we should consider ourselves very lucky to have them on our side.
Whenever you’re ready to join their ranks and do your part to earn the freedoms you SO enjoy - I’d be happy to arrange the recruiter at your door.
Our HERO’s are not out there fighting blindly - they are not out there killing innocent civilians in a blind rage.
In a few cases, they are doing just that. Let’s prevent more by bringing most of them home ASAP.
If you would just specify you believe THESE marines are liars, I would contend we are both decent Americans with differing opinions.
Yeah, sure - I was only talking about the Haditha case.
You have been misled by the media who mis-reported the facts on this case
BLaming the media is BULLSHIT. Sure, they make mistakes and sometimes slant the story. Here, I rely on the Defense Department’s statements.
…no HERO should have to wonder if their acts during war time against the enemy should land them in a court room.
On the contrary, you can’t have an “anything goes” attitude simply because they are wearing a U.S. uniform.
a Marine putting his life on the line so that you can freely state your idiotic opinions.
If your husband is in Iraq, he is not making me safe from the terrorists. That’s more BULLSHIT from the GOP and Talk Radio Republicans.
She should be thanking God or Alla or whomever she prays to that these Marines came in and killed that spineless scumbag
Um, what happened to her family?
Marines are not liars, Steve. They are hero’s - every single one of them
1) A few are liars
2) A few are war criminals, not heroes.
So ill end on Happy Fourth of July, I hope the war ends soon by whatever means.
Let’s hope we can find a reasonable end to this Iraq mess.
RK Maddoc writes:
” “communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality.” ”
BUT fails to tell us that this was a what Marx & Engels claimed the dishonest would attack Communism as doing. Of curse, since Rk fails to mention this point, one must wonder about his reading comprehenion.
(NOTE: I am not defending Communism, just a correct reading of the text)
Steve J,
Are you saying that the way our soldiers acted in WWII was wrong? The attitude back then was to protect America at all costs, even if civilians had to die. Thats the cost of war. Sad, but true. Do you think we could have stormed the beaches of Normandy while worrying that some of the germans up there were merely civilians? We would never have succeeded that day if the attitude back then was how YOU seem to think it should be now.
Six years ago we lost more than 4000 civilians on one day. Maybe you should worry about who is behind THOSE deaths and go after them. (By the way, we learned in 2nd grade math that 4000 is more than 4)
I for one will NEVER turn my back on ANY U.S. soldier, no matter what. They are risking their lives for the safety of myself and my family. I owe them everything I have, and so do you.
Steve J wrote:
“If your husband is in Iraq, he is not making me safe from the terrorists. That’s more BULLSHIT from the GOP and Talk Radio Republicans.”
NOW WHOS BLAMING THE MEDIA?
What a Hypocrit.
I just saw one of the beheadings and then I read this. I feel sick but then that sickness turns to a hot burning deep down inside my gut and I know it is rage building. Uncle Sam payed alot of money to teach me how to kill. There are alot more adult whit males like me. We are standing in the shadows biding our time, waiting to be called either by words or god forbid actions. A wise enemy would fear us!
Steve J.
An atypical liberal. You have an answer for everything. Steve, you weren’t there so you don’t know what happened any more than we do. You get your info. from the same unreliable sources than we do but, you have focused your entire aruement about the Marines on one incident. A tiny fraction of all the Marines that serve w/ honor (something you no nothing about).
If these Marines committed a crime they deserve to be punished, if they did not they deserve our priase for doing the work that they do so people like you can armchair quarterback the entire war instead of getting off the bench to help win it. Let’s let our justince system determine guilt or innocence (something else the Marines have earned for us).
Most liberals, like yourself remind me of recreational sports as a kid. We always had decent players on the team that wanted to WIN. Then we always had guys whining about the equipment wasn’t good enough or the coach is stupid, or they should play it this way or that. It was always difficult to win because you had to make up for the whimpy little complianers. That’s where you fit in. The Know-it-alls.
You libs don’t have the courage to win this battle and we will all pay later. Unfortunatley, I’m afraid you WILL need the Marines to save your ass one day too soon.
People! Ignore that ‘Red a..’ steeve j.
Let him chat in arabic somewhere.
I generally dont let a comment board get this long. In the spirit of our site which is to provide press to both sides including views I dont agree with I think its healthy.
I would propose to wind this long page down we all try to present a common ground and what is agreed upon
Perhaps repost and validate one thing is a positive way that the other side states or claims.
> I for one agree with Steve J that the war at this point is no longer productive and not in our country’s best interest. I hope it ends in a satisfactory way for America in the long term, so this is one common ground fact that lets me stop posting here and be content.
I think we all agree that respect for the military as an institution should be something we all view as important.
Want to contribute to the Hadith defense fund please give address.
I hope that poor excuse of a human being Tim McGirk IS tried for treason. He is the worst of the worst.
Steve J, you are a coward. You are unfit to be an American citizen.
We must all WAKE UP. Shout it from the roof tops. We are in grave danger here in the US.
I pray to God that there will be men left that can tell right from wrong, bitter from sweet,and good from evil. God have mercy on us.
We must fight to get these men released. We can give money and start e-mailing our Commander in grief, George Bush. George is a sellout.
Dunno where you get these so-called “facts”; best to wait for the hearing at Pendleton to finish before assuming that one guy’s version is gospel. 25 people died that morning (one a marine hero)
My dad is also a marine and he taught us “to keep our honor clean”….which is why we must learn what actually went down at Haditha. The reputation of the corps and America is at stake. My country right or wrong?…my country should strive to be right.
Marines do not clear houses this reckless way unless there has been a previous general evacuation order. Women and children and elderly folks were shot dead in their beds and wheelchairs. (This is not disputed by the military, although the at first claimed it was a firefight) The killing spree is unacceptable and un-American. So was the cover-up.
A couple of points:
Abdul Rahman al-Mashandani, of the Hammurabi human rights group, is a different guy from the Reuters stringer (who was exonerated and freed with no charges, acc to your own blog.)
This Mashhadani, an economics professor in Baghdad, is a Sunni Arab from Balad, north of the capital, and his group has focused on restive Sunni areas north and west of the city, including Haditha. That’s why
Thaer Thabit al-Hadithi’s human rights group has far more than 2 employees, although this factoid is all over the place…
Hadithi was one of its six board members, and the group has 10 other administrative staff in 14 local offices across Iraq. (see http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/GEO237696.htm)
500 volunteers work for the Hammurabi oranization. Not all are thrilled with American occupation and its aftermath, but it does not make them “known terrorists” or “enemies”.
And just because men are between 17-45 years in age does not make them insurgents. The students and driver in that taxi were unarmed and according to the military witness at Pendleton, were shot in the back without warning while their arms were submissively put behind thier heads. And a marine pissed on their dead bodies.
Ugly stuff.
May God cover our military. What is wrong with our American views: Spoiled and weak people. I pray that Americans will wake up before our country has completey gone insane. My kids will be here, fighting for their own freedom in our own country if things continue down this sick spiral of liberilism insanity.
WE LOVE & SUPPORT OUR BRAVE MARINES.
Thank you Michael Savage for talking about the Haditha incident - otherwise we would not know about it.
Let’s all pull togther & help our heroic Marine proof their innonecene.
SHAME ON McGIRK FOR CAUSING THIS - MAY BE HE SHOULD TRY FIGHTING TERRORIST IN IRAQ FOR ONE DAY & THEN REPORT ON IT.
Col. Stewart Navarre, chief of staff of Marine Corps Installations West, announced the charges and specifications during a news conference on Camp Pendleton, Calif., today. All of those charged were members of 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment.
The next day, 2nd Marine Division issued a press release stating that 15 Iraqi civilians were killed in an IED explosion, and Marines and Iraqi Army soldiers killed eight insurgents in a follow-on firefight. “We now know with certainty the press release was incorrect, and that none of the civilians were killed by the IED explosion,” Navarre said.
Steve J.
Based on the above statement. Exactly witch of the accused Marines lied. What Exactly did each accused Marine say, When did they say it? To whom exactly did each accused marine lie too? Where were they when they lied? Give me times dates names, locations. Until you provide actual proof, they are not guilty.
I am “SO PROUD” of this country today for the continuing fight to un-cover the truth about “OUR MARINES” who fight for us EVERY DAY!!(I will find a Marine or Marines in the airport tomorrow and buy them lunch and make sure THEY UNDERSTAND HOW AMERICA FEELS)
And also stomping out this Anti-American Immigration bill. This counrty is great and the silent majority will now be silent ANY LONGER !!!
Thank you so much Mike and SAvage, it means so much to me that this is taking place..I knew from the get go this was a planned action, meaning insurgents and ” innocent townspeople”…it males me sick that that idiot bush sits idly by while it is his BS conflict that has our boys fighting for their lives against scum Iraqis and a War of paperwork and staged crap to male them look bad..I will NEVER look at the Republicans in the same light again, and don’t get me going on the immigration promoted by that dope bush.
Thank you guys, and thank you my proud marines.
TO: Mary Jo Hackett, wife of a Marine Class ‘54
When are you people going to realize its not just marines that are sacraficing in Iraq! In fact, Marines have one of the shortest deployment periods among branches. But I’m not here to knock on other branches because I see all branches/mos’s/rate’s/job’s as equal contributers. Maybe people should start to think about giving some equal respect.
and by the way… its the few and the proud.
I have not personally served in the military,
but I have several relatives whohave or are currently. I wrote this for them and all of OUR BRAVE MEN nad WOMEN who have or do currently serve.
Thank You! for your love of country and
“We the People”.
God Bless and watch over you!
We (I) Stand
I Stand,
as a part of many.
We stand for the love of,
God, Country and Family,
Our Constitution, Bill of Right’s, and Law’s,
The Ideal’s and Freedom’s that result from them,
Children growing up safe,
The Forth of July, Picnic’s and Family Reunion’s,
Going to sporting event’s, whether your kid’s, college or pro’s,
And yes, apple pie, ice cream, cookies and cakes.
Yet,
as I stand for all of these thing’s and more,
We,
stand as one,
for the future generation’s of our Father’s and Mother’s, Brother’s and Sister’s and
Aunt’s and Uncle’s who carry-on and defend our nation, our freedom’s,
our way of life and
“We the People”.
May God always Bless all who do. AMEN
by
Ben R. Maynard, Jr.
Thanks Dr Savage for helping the common man to be able to see and read the “other” side of the news through your website. As a conservative democrat, I have previouly supported our President, but because of his mismanagement of the war in Iraq and his showing his true liberal face on immigration, I no longer can support him and I know many others throughout the country feel the same. Keep up the great things that you do Dr Savage, for you are a true American Patriot.
And to steve j, The AMERICAN servicemen in Iraq are combat troops, they are not policeman. Our troops have been put into an impossible situation, and yet they are doing an outstanding job. There are very few if any of these fine AMERICANS deserving of courtmartials. The REAL crimminal activity is coming from our media and government. Truly, as Dr Savage has written, LIBERALISM is a mental disorder. steve get help!!!!!!!!
The truth is it’s own majority.
These are the only words I have found to ease me through the days, weeks, months and now years of madness we can call the American popular culture of the early 21st century.
In the end, the truth will prevail.
Thank God the REAL patriots of this country are being recognized and listened to! SEMPER FI Dr Savage!!!!!!!!!…………….
As a proud veteran of the US Army, I call upon all “Loyal” Americans to contact the President and stop the wholesale lynching of our Marines and soldiers in the field. Instead of amnesty for illegals, he should forgive the military for unfortunate and unavoidable errors. GetTime and McJerk out of Iraq asap.
God Bless the Marines and military: we will support you to the end! Stop the Demon-crats from ruinung our greatest victory against terrorism in IraQ. The surge is working.
Shame on President Bush and all the powers-that-be in the military that could have ended this travesty months ago. I donated to the Thomas More Law Center for the purpose of defending the marines railroaded by a government that is using them as fodder for their own benefit. If it weren’t for Michael Savage I wouldn’t have known the truth about the true torture our marine heroes have had to endure. To hell with Fox, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC and the other cast of bullshit artists. Longevity and good health to Michael Savage and the Savage Nation! (Just in case the FBI is monitoring, I’m on the web.)
Dr. Savage,
I have been listening to you since 1999. During trips to football practice at Monte Vista Christian High School my son and I would listen to you in SF. He joined the USMC in 2002; served 3 tours in Iraq (and was at boot camp with one of the Hadith 8). Sgt Dennis Feeney, nicknamed the “Spiritual Surfer” because he made it his duty to pray before every patrol, was at Haditha on the next “rotation” after this incident. At that time he was involved in training the Iraqi army. He said that the Iraqi’s he helped train work hard and are very willing to protect their country. He remains steadfast in his belief that we are doing a “good job” there and the Iraqi people are deeply grateful. We NEVER hear about the 12 year old girl that was “adopted” by 2 of Dennis’ USMC buddies who brought to the US to have heart surgery that she could not have in Iraq. Neither do we hear about the CAG patrols when they re-built schools and hospitals. I am deeply proud of my son and the rest of our sons and daughters who have been so unselfish in serving our country and others. OORAH!
Thank you for supporting our wonderful Marines. Please let the families KNOW that many are praying for them.
Dr. S you are a “voice in the wilderness” much like John the Baptist!BLESS YOU.
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real simple.. DON’T BUY time magazine, its a piece of crap apologist rag for the communist party. Whats the big deal? Lets have fairness in our universities, high schools,and elementary schools.Not to mention TV, print media and that cesspool hollywood. God Bless AMERICAN armed forces, kick ass and ask questions later!! REAL AMERICANS support you !!
Where did STEVE Jerkoff go? He was mildly entertaining.
amen Michael
God Bless you and Mrs.S
[and Teddy&his girl =]
Mr. savage, look into Olsons resort in Clallam bay, Sekui area. Its a huge Salmon resort that is isolated on the Olympic Penisula. On the ocean, its very rainy, but very isolated too. You would own a piece of WA state hstory too. Arlean Olson has lens against it and that has prevented his sale.I heard a few million. Its a place that if done correct would be big. Then over here in eastern WA I know other places, told your screener I would take you in on horsback or boat. yes your dream is here in Wa.If you listen to a home grown, not a inplant that ruined the westside. The folks you like live here in eastern WA, not the west except for Sekui. Neah Bay, contact me at forcerecon7@msn.com and I would be glad to put you in right direction. Have the young kid to tell the difference between we great leaders Marines, like your friend the Capt. we are special warriors he needs to treat better, he is very snecky too making me think we get to speak again, then cuts me off. So I prayed and got into your phone of him answering 3 times in 1/2 hour only to get slam! slam! Heck who made you a Marine?
me and Mike, captain Mike, “watching your 8!” This dude and Murtha are outright maggots.Love your show, and think you should run for president along with a thinker like me and you and Captain mike. Tell him semper fi!class 68 69 70
Murtha, is outright criminal, along with this sneaky protected so called writer, what a maggot to ruin lifes, how does he sleep both of them, Murtha and Mcjerky? I see nothing but low lifes running this great Country. Total power hungry, money hungry cowards with tiny weak bones and chacthers.
We the people better get off our hind ends and take back this Country from the waky left and right, we see now.
being a combat Marine, the GOP did us no help coming home from Vietnam, here is what they would say! “Hey son come here and let me tell you about a real war, here let me get you a drink!” I wanted to chock the dude right there for his shallow thinking. So beware of all talking suits, look into your community and find men and women with integerity, honor, moral values, courage to stand up for our rights and freedoms, we have many out here, just open your mind and eyes! Wake up Friends! Support our Sons and Daughters, they know what we face and are trying to keep war there, not in your back yard. I am a amputee, broken up Vietnam Vet and would go help today, but they need young men and women. We are the first line of defense here at home so its up to you younger children to either live in freedom or communism, its your choice, we are hear to stand behind you!
mwah!
Semper Fidelis!
Joe
So much for “SEMPER FI” It disgusts me to see how marine officers turn on theyre own marines and how the liberal media supports the enemy. Yes I said it the E N E M Y!!! How bout this one not the enemy but scumbag muslims!!! Heres one for them ALA EATS PORK!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! I think Dr. Savage should post a petition we can sign to protest the persicution of these heros. If he has please email me and tell me where to find it so I can sign it…
It is good that terrorist backers/journalists are told about as the slimy worms they are.
They seek to betray the US soldiers who entrusted them to film and tell the truth, not broadcasting lies about murder and torture ala NY Times running Abu Grabe non-story as a headline for 44 straight days!
It made my stomach turn when Jack Murtha, D-Johnstown, PA, immediately assigned guilt to the US soldiers without so much as a second thought, all brought about by the spineless Time’ scribe. I’ve had Time in my sights for some time over their left-wing bias and this particular story elicited more than a few “hot” emails and phone call to their so-called editorial directors–the maggot-infested vermin they are.
I needed to get that out of my system so I can continue to defend our much maligned troops. Semper Fidelis.
This is what happens when you u let a bunch of FAT guys from washington run the war, they talk about how to fight the war and none of them seem to do any of the fighting for the troops. This war needs to be taken away from the hands of the politicians who have over and over proven their incompetence, Murtha and those guys would do anything to please the islamofascistat at the expense of our MARINES, Murtha and Mcgirk should both be put infront of the same firing squad………..service member
The first time that Time reported this story I found it incredible, solely on the internal evidence of the story. Michael Kraft reminds us of all the alarm bells in that story, and adds even more–and kudos to him for doing so. I am following the latest developments with interest.
The fact that the video was not provided to McGirk till approximately five weeks after the event and then ONLY AFTER, according to the original Time story, “TIME’s Tim McGirk, posted in Baghdad, began to investigate cases in which Iraqi civilians had been killed by U.S. troops.”
He was begging for a new Abu Ghraib and lo and behold, a “human rights group” of two just happened to have been right next door to a nice horrific Marine massacre and just happened to have been sitting for weeks on a video so shocking that one instantly wonders why they hadn’t seen fit to pass it to their colleagues in the “human rights fraternity”.
Time and McGirk may well believe Haditha is real — but I suspect it is for ugly reasons: not because it’s true but because they want it to be true, McGirk wants a Pulitzer for it, the magazine wants to be seen as breaking another Abu Ghraib story, and on and on and on…
You did not see the press jump on the story when the Investigating Officer recommended no criminal charges against LCpl Sharratt.
http://dreadnaught.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/haditha-update-ltcol-chessani-and-cpl-sharratt-results-of-the-article-32/
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