Democrat Debate In Miami
I just had to walk out of the room before the end of the pandering event on Univision. The democratic candidates are currently having a competition to promise the most amnesty to Illegals.
In America where 99% of residents that are able to vote legally speak english, the Dems seem to think they needed a special event in Miami, in Spanish, and with almost every question about giving legal status to illegal immigrants.
An hour long commercial for amnesty.
Are any other special interest groups getting their own private debate to discuss matters that only pertain to them?
Does the law of the US not matter or come into debate when the votes of a special interest group are up for grabs?
Does it not seem strange to anyone else that a certain group of people in the US feel their concerns are so different that they need their own private debate to address them.
In a country that is supposed to be about “melting pot” and unity why is this type of pandering and special interest separationism a backbone of the Democratic party.
Here is some of the wide range of questions that affect all Americans at this event.
“How long after you are elected will you make new immigration reform.”
“Do you think Illegals are important to the economy”
“Why is there plans to build a wall with Mexico and not Canada?”
“Will you make Spanish the official second language of the US.?”
And the candidates did not openly object to making Spanish the official “second” language of the US.
At some point will illegal immigrants be learning the first one?
An Ironic point at this “debate” is that the candidates were not allowed to speak Spanish, as Bill Richardson is fluent and speaks it well. Too bad, after Hillary’s attempt to speak ‘jive’, I wanted to see her try to roll her R’s to win votes.
Jorge Ramos the host told Richardson that he is not allowed to speak Spanish at the debate, while he is answering the question about how he will make it the official “second” language of the US.
I guess the invasion has to be very subtle?
Since the majority of the nation is opposed to amnesty for illegals, I wonder if the Minutemen hosted a debate how many of these candidates would attend?
The minutemen are legal registered voting Americans, but since they are not a minority group that can be pandered to, they do not get their own private debate.
I know that Miami has a large legal hispanic population, I lived there for 3 years in Davie, Florida. My first childs godparents speak only Spanish and Italian and live in Weston, Florida. I also know that Americas of hispanic roots speak english and have the same concerns as all other American’s. I know illegals and their desire for amnesty won’t improve the life of Hispanic Americans.
I could not even finish watching this racist, separationist event. As my wife, a legal hispanic immigrant said today, “Why do I care, illegals and amnesty have nothing to do with Hispanic Americans”.
Hispanics that live in the United States have the same concerns and goals as all American’s. Legal hispanics don’t “need” illegals, but illegals want America to think they all stand together. The truth is that illegals greatly hurt the quality of life of legal hispanics and place a negative stigma on legal hispanics with their unlawful and disrespectful life choices. I have often pointed out how, like my Father in law, many legal hispanics are targetted for identity theft by illegals because of their hispanic ID’s. He has had his identity stolen twice by illegals in 5 years here.
The wages of legal working class hispanics is not “going up” thank to illegal immigration, it’s going down greatly.
Why do liberals commit to try to divide the nation, why is one debate for all American’s not enough?
Can we not just translate the normal debate for the very, very rare legal registered voter that doesn’t speak english?
Do all other race groups get a special Q & A session?
Is this really equality?
I await the libs calling me racist, I encourage them to read around the site before they put their foot in their mouth.
I want equality for all, which also means no special 1 hour debate dedicated to questions about amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Unless, of course they plan to attend the debate of other minority groups to address race specific questions?
That would be equality for all.
Transcript of this event coming soon.
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I’m a Democratic voter. I watched the same debate you did. I sensed pandering, but it wasn’t pandering to latinos, per se (except perhaps for the last question about contributions of hispanics to American society, which was an invitation for pandering to latinos). We do about a gazillion English events where the Spanish-speakers get the translation - it’s only just, right, and fair that the shoe be on the other foot for once.
This was a pander-fest to the liberal base. As part of the liberal base, I felt well-fed and cared for tonight.
Perhaps liberalism would make more sense to you in the original English, or maybe it wouldn’t. I don’t know. But it was nice to see an attempt by our candidates to reach out to every possible voter, and this is part of that.
Jim, I speak spanish, my family is hispanic, and we watch Univision all day here.
I dont see why translating the normal debates isnt ok.
Fair is the same for all, i dont see other minority or speical interest groups getting 1 hour of televised questions about their own interests.
No debate just for gays?
Just for Muslims?
Just for Jewish community?
Just for Blacks?
Just for Mormans?
if they have them all equally I wouldn’t object…..honest.
I am not socially conservative on many matters, I don’t mind these groups and respect their rights to liberty….but equality is a two way street and not just something to be used to the advantage of minorities or special interests.
Shouldn’t a debate be for Americans as a single group?
Isnt that the right message, not trying to divide and please interest groups seperate from all of America?
One debate, One america, all concerns convered equally?
I do though enjoy your tasteful response, and I respect all people’s right to all opinions.
I get too many liberals attacking and pretending they dont see pandering which ends any hope of an intelligent exchange.
Happy to have you.
Cubans in Florida are legal because of hatred towards the Castro regime.
But they flee their country because of the same reason… the chance of prosperity denied in their own country. Why is it different than mexicans? Just because the US gives them permanent residence when touching american soil…
If you don’t see why the only difference between legal cubanamericans and illegal immigrants is due to a technicallity then you should just open your eyes.
Castro is our enemy, Cuba is a dictatorship in the purest sense…..and the enemy of those we give sanctuary to.
Mexico is a democracy, albeit a shaky one.
Cubans dont flee a “lack of prosperity” they flee a “lack of freedom of any kind”.
There is a big difference.
You really think politics and society in Cuba and Mexico are similar?
ALSO, last I checked, there arn’t 1,000,000 Cubans landing on shore every year.
That seems like a signifiicant issue you left out.
They will make Spanish an official language of the US over my dead body! Moreover the plan is to make the US monolingual Spanish-speaking and when they get to be the majority, that’s exactly what they’ll do. They won’t be holding debates in English for us English-speakers, that’s for damn sure. I will never vote Democrat again, they are disgusting.
Jimd D:
We do about a gazillion English events where the Spanish-speakers get the translation - it’s only just, right, and fair that the shoe be on the other foot for once.
Why? Do they have “special” debate sessions for Persians, Eastern Europeans, Chinese? Why are the Hispanics just so darn “special” that they get to be the one single ethnic group that has been exempted from learning to speak English as all other immigrant groups have done for more than 200 years?
Democrats, in their debate tonight, made certain that the war in Iraq was the central issue. In doing so, they expose a frightening truth about Democratic presidential candidates; terrorism is not a serious theme for those Democrats hoping to sit in the White House. I go into more detail here…
http://www.livebreatheanddie.com/2007/09/10/democratic-presidential-candidates-ignore-the-threat-of-terrorism/
The war a cnetral issue?
half the questions were about amnesty and contributions of hispanics, and other open invitations to pander.
Univision is as DEM as jimmy Carter, and they provided a perfect commercial for Amnesty.
This was not about the war, but for a few questions slipped in.
Mr. Kraft - at the end of your post, you said that transcripts were coming soon for the Miami Democrat Debate. I have been searching the Internet daily and cannot find them. Can you please post the link where I can read the complete transcripts for this event - both the questions and answers - in English? Thank you
My spanish is pretty good, but translating takes time and I want a second opijion to weed out any slant.
Coming soon.
Hi Micheal,
I missed the Democratic debate, and still can’t find a decent transcription on the net. Are you still planning on hosting a transcript? I tried the search bar, but typing “Univision” and “transcript” earns me a 404 message.